…then I hope you will be interested in a new page I’ll be publishing this weekend. I’m no watchmaker, so my understanding of the inner workings of any watch is limited – chronographs are even more mysterious! However, as I trailed a few weeks ago, I am very happy that the work of a master watchmaker in the USA will now be featured here 🙂 We will be able to see how he restores Citizen’s superb 8110 chronograph watch – and he can do wonders with what might otherwise be regarded as ‘no-hopers’.
In the meantime, here’s one that hasn’t needed restoration:
Sweephand's Vintage Citizen Watch Blog 
I have two of them but different model.
Hi Thaweechai – thanks for visiting my blog. Which ones do you have?
Stephen
I can’t wait to read it! 🙂
Should be published soon Doc 🙂
Hi look forward to that! I have four of them, two of them exactly as seen on your picture (don’t have the matching shirt unfortunately 🙂 one which I got as a present 40 years ago, it’s wearable bot no longer nice, so I bought a mint one in addition. Then another one with black dial and rotating bezel, and ofcourse a close to mint Bullhead. (and two IWCs and a TAG Heuer but that’s another forum..)
Leonard
Hi Leonard, thanks for visiting – I’d be interested to see pics of your watches 🙂 Any chance of a link to them?
Stephen
Great looking piece! Can’t wait to necome a regular follower of the other page too!
Should be published soon Bram 🙂
Stephen
It never occurred to me when I took over my son’s Citizen watch recently that it may be older that I thought but having found your site it seems possible you will know for sure how old it actually is..
It has N-8200-S82695-KA on the dial. (and the Eagle 7 logo) It has day and date in English and German
The case back has:-
CITIZEN WATCH CO.
WATER RESIST
ST. STEEL
4-039181 MSE
0 9 2 1 9 9
GN-4_S
I’ve spent quite a long time trying to get it as accurate as possible, but the required minuscule amount of movement to the adjuster (tiny fractions of a millimeter) has defeated me I think. I can get it gaining 10 seconds a day or losing 10 seconds a day but so far nowhere in between. I did, in error, move what I understand is the isochronism adjustment early on but I think I got it back to where it was and anyway the speed is very stable over time albeit either +10 sec/day or -10 sec/day. I am correct in assuming that the lever with the 2 gold studs is what I should be adjusting I hope!
Hi John, thanks for visiting my blog. Your son’s watch is a fairly recent model using the 8200 automatic movement as far as I know. Citizen have used this movement since 1975, so it can be difficult to date them. The style of the dial code (N-8200-S82695-KA)is used on more modern watches. I found an example for sale on eBay (using the case code 4-039181) and it was described as modern (i.e. post the year 2000).
Without the fine adjuster found on high-beat / higher end watches, it is hard to make the tiny adjustments needed when you are trying to make them as accurate as possible. You are moving the correct lever 🙂 To be fair +/- 10 seconds a day is pretty good for this movement – I think the factory setting is something like +/- 40 seconds so you are well within that. Chronometer standard for the ‘mean daily rate’ is -1 to +10 so if you have it running 10 seconds fast you are on the edge of chronometer level…
Stephen
Thanks for that info Stephen. Since my original post I’ve got it down to gaining nothing overnight and about 4 seconds in 8 hours since. From what you said I think I should be content with that!
I am a bit obsessive with clock accuracy, probably coming from my early years when I got a Timex electric watch in 1962. That was before quartz watches, just the balance wheel maintained by a battery triggered solenoid instead of a spring. That was within a second or so per week.
I suppose I could easily go out and buy a watch locked to the 60kHz time transmission from Anthorn but where’s the fun in that!!
At work I keep our master clock at 13ms ahead of Radio 4 GTS – the typical delay on that service between the source in London and its arrival in Sheffield. Well I did say obsessive!!
Regards
John
Maybe a tad obsessive John 🙂 Interesting to hear that you had a Timex electric. Have you looked at the Cosmotron page, showing Citizen’s tale on elector-mechanical watches? See here:
If you also follow the Blogroll link to ‘Electric Watches’ you can see loads of info and a gallery of movements including Timex.
The accuracy you’ve achieved on that 8200 is excellent, nice work,
Stephen