With many thanks again to Anthony, I now have more scans of several Challenge Timer models from Citizen’s old catalogs. These are especially good for checking ‘correctness’ of examples for sale, things like the colour of day and date wheels, original bracelets and straps, and dial and hand combinations. I’ll add these to the reference page with some commentary but in the meantime here are the scans for your information. First, from 1974:
This image includes a rare (non-chronograph) 6501 automatic, with rotating inner bezel. I was surprised to see that the original price was more than the Challenge Timers. These original black straps are extremely rare these days – I have only seen one or two examples of them on Yahoo Japan.
Now, from 1975, with the 67-9119 shown on its familiar bracelet with black panels:
Nest is from 1976, and with the same models as 1975. But I’ve included it because there is one interesting difference (and it’s not the position they are in on the page). Can anyone spot what it is?
With the 1977 catalog featuring the same modes as ’75 and ’76, let’s move on to 1978, and here we have the ‘Speedies’:
And finally, five years later in 1983, we see two examples of the Walter Wolf special edition, one in a titanium case. And look at those prices!:
thanks Mike 🙂
Great! Thanks for the pics. Please give me advice where could I buy those white-black H/M hands for my 67-9551? I think the same as 4-901045 model in the middle of the third picture. Thanks in advance.
Hi Jim – don’t think I’ve ever seen this hand set for sale anywhere I’m afraid. Are they missing on yours, or are they the wrong ones?
Hi Stephen! Unfortunately the painting is damaged on the minute hand and the minute summarizer hand. I ordered an aftermarket hand set for 8110 which I hope will be compatible but the hour and minute hand is not exactly the same as mine. http://www.ebay.com/itm/131658063239?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Those after-market ones will fit of course, but do you think the original hands could be repainted or touched up to improve them? A full repaint for this style is not easy, but it may be possible to carefully fill in the gaps if the paint has flaked.
I’ve seen some repainted watch hands and those were really ugly, it might be very difficult to prepare, repaint and relume by hand. Thats why (maybe I’m the only one with my opinion 🙂 ) but I prefer the aftermarket hands instead of repainted originals. Anyway it is so sad that there’s no spare or aftermarket spare hands for a watch which had been in production for almost a decade. I’ll post pics of the new look after I got the hands from US and the sternkreuz crystal from UK and installed both.
If I knew the exact size of the hands (diameter of the holes) I could find aftermarket hands in the very similar style, but I can’t find that. If the 8110 hands set arrive I’ll measure the sizes and will start to hunt for a black and white H/M hand set like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEIKO-Chronograph-6139-HANDS-SET-New-White-sub-Seconds-/131658873745?hash=item1ea77afb91:g:3FgAAOSw9N1V1RjJ
Hi Jim – I agree that the lumed hands are difficult to do – I would be ok touching up the odd spot, but a total repaint would be too much for me. Here are the hole sizes for the original hands:
1.52 x 1.00 x 0.17mm.
Hi Stephen! Thank you so much for the valuable information. Thus I need the hour and minute hands only, I hope I’ll find a suitable set if the 8110 silver hands won’t look good for my 8100.
You’re welcome Jim – good luck on your search
I would say, that restoration of the old hands are possible, if those old hands needs only new paint and lume. Naturally this requires someone how have done these before, i.e. professional watchmaker. There is a one “guy” and Stephen might know who i mean…
This is just a thought, a possible solution for Jim?
Thank you for the great pictures!
I guess the puzzle here is white dialed “Bullhead”? There is for some reason different case number in 1976 picture.
Those Walter Wolff edition watches prices are unbelievable high!
I have asked this before, but never got proper answer… What material are those black blocks within 67-9119 bracelet?
You’re welcome Marko, although thanks should really go to Anthony – and yes you’ve spotted that one ‘bullhead has a different case number in the 1976 catalog. That case number 4-901177 – is typically associated with the the ‘standard’ silver dialled bullhead with plain black sub-dials. Well done, but there’s no prize other than lots of kudos 🙂
Interesting question about the black blocks, I think I’ll do a post abut it….
What? No prize at all??? Only kudos, i´m SO disappointed… 😀
Weird thing, that there have been that case number in that particular year. Is there some difference between those two cases, the one in the catalog and the “standard” one? For me those “bullheads” just looks all the same, exluding the octagonal one :D.
I actually do not think that there is a difference between the models in the two catalogs and that it is actually a typo. The ’77 catalog features the same watch but the case number matches the ’75 catalog again.
Hi Anthony – I think you may well be right 🙂
Maybe so Anthony, that would explain why it’s different in only one catalog.
😀 sorry to disappoint! I’m sure the cases are identical, and as Anthony has said, the different case number was probably a mistake in the catalog. I’ll see if I can find any examples in my files to see what’s on the back.