Have You Contacted Me?….

I received a message today via the enquiry form, from ‘Marchand’ with an ‘@me.com’ email address. My reply is bouncing back as ‘undeliverable’, saying the email address does not exist or is unable to receive mail.

The query was about the calendar works in a 5470 movement. If you see this can you please contact me again, with a different email address if possible.

18th January – now resolved 🙂

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How to Identify an Original Bullhead Dial – Some Tips

Citizen’s 67-9011 Challenge Timer – usually known as the ‘Bullhead’ – is the most commonly seen version of their line of vintage auto chronographs. I’ve had more than a few people ask me to take a look at examples offered for sale, typically on eBay, to check whether they are original or not. I have published a page on this issue before ( https://sweep-hand.org/want-an-original-citizen-bullhead-a-quick-buying-guide/ ) , but I thought I’d add some more information, specifically about dials. Beyond the obvious point about non-original colours, it can be difficult to see other issues, so I hope to cover them here – I’ll also add this to the reference page. Of course some sellers describe after market parts, others don’t – maybe they bought the piece themselves believing to to be all original – so I hope these additional pointers will help.

I am using pics of my own example, which has the patina and wear you’d expect of a well-used nearly forty year old watch, but the condition of it clearly shows what to look for, at least for this, the most commonly seen model which has the dial code ‘901018‘. But first here is an example of an aftermarket dial, to help with the comparisons that need to be made (image from the internet, with due acknowledgement – or maybe apologies! – to the owner). This example is quite a poor copy, which makes it easier to see the differences:

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And mine:

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The hour markers are painted white with a black edges and a lume spot at the outer end. Note how the ones on the blue dial have uneven edges and the lume spots are off centre.

Generally the printed letters and numbers are of a fine quality. The font used for the letters has been created by Citizen – later pics make this clearer still. It has a small ‘serif’, unlike the blue dial, and differences can be seen in shaping and detail – see, for example the ‘C’ and ‘G’.

The ‘C’ of ‘CHRONOGRAPH’ is positioned centrally under the ‘C’ of the applied CITIZEN’ logo, not to the left as in the after market example. On an original dial the ‘H’ at the end is aligned with the vertical end part of the “N’ on the applied dial.

The minute/second track is worth looking at closely – first the ‘TACHYMETER’ and position of the ‘500’ mark:

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On the blue dial ‘TACHYMETER’ appears taller and a little compressed in its spacing, and the 500 mark is placed to the right of the 7 minute and 1 second line – the original sits on the marker, but slightly to the left (this also applies the dial of  67-9356 octagonal all-steel model). The minute and second markers also touch the black tachy ring – there is a clear space on the blue dial. On the blue dial the white marks under the numbers are badly placed and overlap the edge of the black tachy ring and the main dial from about ‘250’ to ‘110’.

Printing of the dial code is positioned as follows:

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The ‘9’ is placed in line with the 24th minute marker and the code ends well before the 21st minute marker. The blue dial replicates this reasonably well. The detail of the font can be seen here on ’23 JEWELS’.  Next, note that ‘JAPAN 8110’ starts in line with the 39th minute marker and ends in line with the 36th minute marker:

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Also, note the fineness of the printing, and particularly here how the tachy numbers are positioned – incorrectly on the blue dial, for example note how the ‘1’ in ‘100’ and the ‘5’ in ’95’ relate to the white indices which start at ‘100’.

There is no gap between the edge of the sub-dials and the minute/second track – there is such a gap on the blue dial, at least on this side of the dial! On the other side of the blue example the track actually overlaps the sub-dial slightly:

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Again, note the detail of the font – it is a rather nice design 🙂

Finally, the sub-dials. These have a subtly grooved finish, rather like a tiny vinyl record (remember them? 🙂 ). Often after-market dials are too coarsely finished, although it looks like no attempt was made to replicate it at all on the blue dial. Also, the numbers do not touch the white indices:

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Happy hunting!

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More 67-9313 Restorations Now Added

Five more examples of Brian’s work are now included on the Restoration page – numbers 20 to 24….and #24 is an interesting one 🙂  I’ll be interested to read your comments about that one! Here’s a quick link:

https://sweep-hand.org/brians-8110a-restoration-the-speedy-67-9313/

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More Speedy Examples on the Way

Brian has been busy working on more 67-9313’s, and has sent pics and info on five more – I’ll be adding these to the Restoration Page soon.

Been catching up on things this week after a week’s holiday visiting Barcelona and the very lovely town of Girona. I used my one and only 8200 driven watch, in ‘Adorex’ form, whilst I was away and it ran impeccably. Although the 8200 is most commonly seen in the ‘Eagle 7’, the Adorex version was an early one – mine is from 1977:

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More about this model here: https://sweep-hand.org/2014/10/12/the-weeks-featured-watch-62-the-adorex-8200/

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Colourful Citizens

Citizen certainly weren’t shy about using colours in the 1970s, and their range of automatic chronographs is a good example. Even with conservative dial colours, colourful highlights were used on a number of the models to grab a bit of attention. And the colours were sometimes combined with interesting case designs. My auto chrono collection is a good representation of these qualities:

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These models use either the 8110A or 8100A versions of the high beat (28,800 beat per hour) movement. There are no ‘B’ or other versions since the ‘A’ = automatic 🙂  The 8110 is the better known of the two, with its twin sub-dials for hours and minutes. The single sub-dial features only a minute counter. The sweep-hand hand is of course the chronograph second counter.

Both versions were introduced in 1972, the 8100 first, I think in May of that year, with the 8110 following in October.  The 8110 was produced for much longer though, up to 1980 or thereabouts, with one special version found in the Walter Wolf branded model produced as late as 1983. The 8100 models were only produced for maybe 2 years – I don’t think I’ve seen one later than 1974.

For a closer look, here are a couple of examples I’ve featured on my blog:

https://sweep-hand.org/2011/11/17/this-weeks-featured-watch-16-67-9038-chronograph/

https://sweep-hand.org/2011/11/28/this-weeks-featured-watch-17-67-9577-chronograph/

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Citizen Chronograph 67-9071 ‘Monaco’ – More than a restoration!

I’ve just published a new page featuring more of Brian Leiser’s excellent work – this time he has built a 67-9071 from parts I supplied. And, of course, he’s done a superb job! From two rather sad non-runners, along with some very nice NOS parts I was able to supply, I now have a very  nice example of this rare model – and with Brian’s expertise it’s running beautifully and will now do so for many years.

Here’s the page, I hope you enjoy Brian’s account, which he kindly supplied along with many photos and notes – thank you Brian 🙂

https://sweep-hand.org/brians-restorations-the-citizen-67-9071-monaco/

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It’s been rather quiet here over the summer, but….

I’ve been busy over recent months with lots of non-watch related stuff, but that’s going to change soon! I’ve just got something back from master watchmaker Brian Leiser…….yes, he’s worked his chronograph magic again 🙂  This time on one of the rarer models, a 67-9071 ‘Monaco’. He’s done a great job – as always – and has provided pics and notes on the build (not just one of those simple restorations 😉 ) so I can do a full account.

Here’s a teaser for now:

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Not Had a Reply?

I’ve had some issues with email over recent weeks, so if you have contacted me with a question and not had a reply could you please get back to me.  Apologies if this has happened to you, but I’ll try to reply asap if you try again.

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This Week’s Featured Watch #79 – the Citizen Jet Monthly

Many people may be familiar with Citizen’s vintage ‘Monthly’ watches, which use the 5270 movement and were produced in the late 1960s. They are also found in the guise of the ‘Moon Dater’, which was the export model. However, Citizen produced a slightly earlier Monthly model, using the 4101 ‘Jet’ movement – and this model is much less known, and is a rare beast.  Made only in gold plated cases as far as I know, mine is of the white gold variety:

As can be seen this Monthly is part of the ‘Seven’ auto-dater line, using the 19 jewel version of the 4101 calibre. Unlike the 5270 monthlies, the month window is placed at the 9 o’clock position and is manually turned by the crown at 4 o’clock. The month wheel runs over the date wheel and is perforated so that the date can be seen through it.

The serial number shows production in August 1965, and ‘WGP’ refers to the case plating:

This is a large watch for its time, measuring 40mm across the case and the same lug to lug. It is also over 12mm thick, perhaps reflecting one of the reasons Citizen moved to the more compact oscillating weight movements for its automatics.

The size difference is more apparent when placed alongside a more conventional Jet model:

The 4101 movement beats at 18,000 per hour and can be manually wound, without hacking. The time is set by pulling the crown out one click, whilst the date is set by pulling in and out at the second click. The day is set by winding back and forth between 9 and 12:

It would have come in a box like this originally:

And finally a closer look at the dial and hands:

 

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This Week’s Featured Watch #78 – the 4-900014 Chronograph

One of two of Citizen’s chronographs with case number only, i.e. no model number, this is a single register ‘Challenge Timer’ model which is driven by the 8100A movement (‘A’ is for Automatic, there’s no ‘B’ version 🙂 ).  Both the twin register 8110A movement and the 8100 were introduced in 1972. As with the 8110, this type has 23 jewels and uses the central sweep hand as the second counter, whilst the sub-dial counts minutes. Otherwise its features are the same, running at 28,800 beats per hour with hand winding and ‘fly-back’ (instant reset and restart of chronograph function without having to stop it first).

This model has a steel case with black coated alloy bezel. Two dial designs were produced as far as I know, the other having a silver sub-dial – the black sub-dial on this example is rather more subtle. The case is polished – I believe this is correct since two models shown in a 1974 catalog show one with a polished case, the other with a satin finish:

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The dial and hands create a very legible face, and the highlights on the sub-dial give some colour and interest. The case back gives a production date of May 1972, so this is an early one:

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Good examples of the 8100 are not easy to find, rather like some of the lesser known 8110 models. Unlike the 8110 models, I don’t recall seeing any made after 1974, so they had only a limited production run and fewer will have been sold as a result.

For more information on all Citizen’s vintage chronographs, here’s a link to my reference page: https://sweep-hand.org/citizens-vintage-chronographs/

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